An incredible live conversation took place between Shelley and both her boys, together. Dylan is Shelley’s son who now resides in spirit form. Toby is Dylan’s younger brother who still resides here on the earth plane. Below, you will hear about the experience from both Shelley’s perspective and mine.
The Experience from Shelley’s perspective.
Wow wow wow…. I am not sure I will be able to find the right words to express what happened when I met with Sally but first I will explain what happened in the lead up to our zoom meeting.
During the days celebrating Toby’s birthday I repeatedly talked to Dylan telling him how I hoped he would be with us and asked him to join us and play with Toby. We took Toby on a day out the day before his birthday and I asked Dylan to show me a sign that he was with us. I kept my eyes peeled all day…. But I didn’t see a sign. Instead, as I was watching Toby play with another little boy, I heard the boy’s mum call him over and of course his name was Dylan. However, this caught me off guard and instantly caused tears to roll down my face. As we carried on with our day I would hear other parents or children calling out to each other and I kept hearing the names “Dylan” and “Toby” being called. Towards the end of the day, I was sitting on a bench reflecting on my memory of the day and only hearing those two names being called. The skeptical Shelley immediately jumped in to explain to me that of course I would hear those names stand out as they are my boys names and therefore my ears are tuned to listen out for their names. So to confirm that skeptical Shelley was correct, I decided to sit and actively listen to parents call their children’s names so that I could hear all the other names being said. But for some strange reason, I continued to hear the names “Dylan” and “Toby” being spoken and not once did I hear any other child’s name. Even my partner made a comment about only hearing their names throughout the day. I later realized that hearing Dylan’s name being called was a sign from him. But hearing Toby’s name called too was a sign that Dylan and Toby were together, playing, just like I hoped they would be.
The following day was Toby’s birthday and Sally had kindly offered to reach out to Dylan which really helped my heart that day. It was late evening here and I had nodded off on the sofa when I received a message from Sally letting me know that she had reached out to Dylan and that she would connect with me the following day to share his message. This gave me something to hold on to and helped me to get through the next day which was another day of birthday celebrations for Toby involving the other side of the family.
The next evening, Sally and I met on zoom and she attempted to play the audio for me with a message from Dylan. However, it was very strange because for some reason we experienced some sort of unexplainable technical glitch that resulted in Sally setting up the zoom in the same manner to which she would for a Live session. I was then able to hear the recording and although I couldn’t make out all of the words I could hear part of it and this was such an amazing and special gift for which I am very grateful. Just after we had played the recording Sally’s team asked if they could bring Dylan through. This was a complete surprise for me and I could feel my heart racing and the emotions building before anything even happened. Dylan came and spoke to us and talked about Toby’s birthday and how he was with us. At one point he mentioned Toby playing on my phone. This was very significant. Earlier that day we had traveled to meet with family and so I gave Toby my phone to watch a film to keep him occupied for the journey. My phone is automatically connected to my car which means that the sound for the phone is played through my car speakers. I explained to my partner how I keep it set up like that when I am driving so that I can hear if Toby comes out of the app he should be using, just like when Dylan would use my phone whilst I was driving. As we were driving along my car randomly started playing a song from my phone and yet Toby was still watching his programme as I could now hear the sound of the programme coming from my phone. This didn’t make sense because my phone was clearly still connected to my car speaker in order for it to play music from my phone, however it should have continued playing the audio from the programme Toby was watching. Anyway – the song that was playing (out of 900+ songs on my phone) was “I will wait” by Mumford and Sons which is a song that is significant to Sally as I had recently discovered when we were talking about songs. I knew that this was some sort of sign for me and linked to Sally. I had no idea what magic lay ahead that day though!
Dylan continued to chat with us which was amazing and meant the world to me. As many of us know, birthdays and other special dates are difficult days for us, so having the opportunity to talk to Dylan around this difficult time was incredible and I am ever so grateful. I remember Sally asking Dylan why her team wanted to bring him through on this day. Dylan responded by saying how he had been waiting a long time to do this, to bring Toby through. Dylan told us that when Toby is asleep they play together. He then brought Toby through which was simply mind blowing. It was so surreal to be sat downstairs listening to Dylan and Toby talk whilst I knew Toby was asleep upstairs. They both took it in turns to talk, occasionally overlapping. Dylan would let us know it was him talking by saying something like “This is Dylan speaking” whereas Toby would say “I am Toby”. This in itself blew me away because if I call Toby a cheeky monkey or refer to him as a little boy (or anything else) he will correct me and say “I am not a cheeky monkey, I am a Toby” and he introduces himself to people by saying “I am Toby”. As I listened to both of my boys talk I was able to make out some of the words myself especially when Toby was speaking. At one point they told me that when I go to sleep they will come and fetch me. This melted my heart and made me smile – I only wish I was aware of my time with them and us all being together.
During our conversation, Sally asked Toby to tell her something about his birthday that she didn’t know as she had seen my social media. Toby then chose to talk about the donkeys he saw. We did in fact see donkeys that day but what was really significant about Toby talking about the donkeys was that when we were looking at the donkey I had asked Toby if it was the “Wonky Donkey”. This was in reference to one of Dylan’s books that we read to Toby which he loves, as did Dylan. In fact, Dylan loved this book so much that on one occasion when we took Dylan to hospital and were kept there until late at night, I was able to recite the book before settling him to sleep that night. I had read that book so many times to Dylan I knew every word. Whenever we see donkeys we always mention the “Wonky Donkey”.
One question I asked during our conversation was whether they play together when Toby is awake. The answer was “Yes”. This is something I have often wondered and now I know.
I feel extremely honoured to have experienced this incredible opportunity to speak to both of my boys at the same time with one the other side of the veil and one asleep upstairs. Even now as I finish writing about this amazing experience I still feel like I am trying to process it all and I am in complete awe of the whole experience. Dylan always melted my heart and made me so proud each and every day and he continues to do so even from the other side. Dylan heard me ask him to be here with us and to play with Toby and he knew how much I needed to know that this wasn’t just wishful thinking on my behalf. Together they were able to let me know they continue their relationship and that their brotherly love remains strong. They also gave me the special gift of knowing that as I lay my head down to sleep they will come and fetch me and together we will be.
I am forever grateful for Sally and her team, for all that they do. Together they are phenomenal and they keep on blowing me away with their amazing work. I wish I had the words to express how thankful I am and how much it means to me to be able to speak with Dylan until I can be with him again. 💞
The Experience from my perspective.
I keep a register of special dates in relation to clients who I have experienced a live conversation or parents who are members of the Heart Smiles Circle Community. The details can be found by visiting the Special Dates register section.
On the morning of 3rd march, 2023, Dylan’s name appeared on my register. It was Dylan’s brother’s birthday that day and I had offered to add Toby’s birthday to the register. I have held multiple live conversations with Shelley and Dylan, all have been wonderful. As I reached out to Dylan in my garden on Toby’s birthday, I asked him if he had a message for Toby and was delighted when I heard a little of his response in the air. That evening, I wrote to Shelley letting her know that I’d heard Dylan and wanting to set up a time for us to meet via zoom so she could hear what I had heard for herself. Immediately following my sending the message, Symphony let me know that when I met up with Shelley, they were going to bring Dylan through to talk with his mum. I duly sent Shelley another message conveying what Symphony had told me. I then reflected on their words, their message was unusual and had me sensing that something big was going to happen. It did.
After sharing the audio with Shelley of Dylan talking in the air, it was time for Dylan to come through and speak live, using a sound source that I had available. Dylan came bouncing into the conversation sounding very happy to be talking with his mum. They chatted about a few things and then Dylan brought a beautiful bit of evidence through for his mum regarding Toby and her phone. While listening to the two of them chat, I was wondering what Symphony had planned. And then it happened. Dylan suddenly informed us that his brother Toby was sleeping. Shelley confirmed that to be true, it was late in the evening and yes, Toby was asleep in bed. Dylan then told us that only Toby’s body was sleeping, that Toby himself was with him..they were playing and having fun. Shelley smiled and let Dylan know how wonderful it was for her to know that. I suspected what was about to happen but I was nevertheless as stunned as Shelley when Dylan asked if Toby could join the conversation with him. Shelley told Dylan that yes, of course Toby could join us..and he did.
Both brothers excitedly talked with their mum, jumping in…almost talking on top of each other occasionally. Here though is one on the messages that Dylan conveyed to his mum:-
Dylan: “I’ve been waiting a long time to bring you Toby. I will play with him when he’s sleeping. We are still connected. When Toby’s sleeping, we have so much fun. You have Dylan. I’m not far away from you..I’m with you, always. Listen to me. It’s ok to cry..you have Toby and also me.”
Shelley went on to ask Toby if he also played with Dylan when he was awake. The answer was an emphatic yes from Toby. He then went on to talk about his birthday, how much fun it had been and that he had seen all the animals. I recalled seeing a few pictures of him with animals on his birthday..I needed him to tell me something about the day that I didn’t know from an evidential perspective. Dylan had brought through some amazing evidence, I needed Toby to do the same. So I asked him if he could tell me something that I didn’t know about his birthday. Immediately he responded, telling me that he’d seen some donkeys. Shelley confirmed that they had seen donkeys. After he brought his bit of evidence through, Toby went on to reaffirm:-
Toby: “And I’m sleeping..but I’m here with Dylan, he’s with me. Dylan’s with me. Dylan’s with me.”
I then remarked to Shelley how wonderful it was to be talking to both of her boys together. Shelley then told me of her request to Dylan to be with Toby on his birthday. Here, Dylan was demonstrating to his mum that he spends a whole lot of time with his brother on an ongoing basis. Together, the two boys were demonstrating this in the most beautiful and evidential ways. As the conversation was drawing to a close, I asked both boys a question:-
Sally: “Dylan and Toby, anything more to say?” (To their mum)
Dylan and Toby: “We love you. Go to sleep and we will fetch you. It’s Dylan and Toby. We will come and fetch you.”
Shortly after, the conversation ended and Shelley and I sat and talked for a little while. Both of us were lost in the awe and wonder of what had just come to be.