The Live Conversations

An Explanation of
The Live Conversation Experience

I use the term “live conversation” to describe the real time, direct, two-way conversations that occur during a live session between loved ones here on the earth plane and loved ones residing in the realm of spirit. The sessions are often described as being akin to a phone call due to the continual and immediately responsive nature of the conversations.  My team in spirit are present throughout the process..from the preparation prior to the session occurring to overseeing the session itself. Each session is beautifully unique with the loved ones from  both sides of the veil orchestrating how the conversation flows and its content, I simply act as a facilitator. 

Sometimes, other loved ones who have passed will look to join the conversation and permission is always sought first before that can happen. Such happenings have led to many wonderful family reunions taking place. Parents, grandparents, children, siblings, aunts and uncles all coming through..their personalities shining through their words and turn of phrase.

I began facilitating these conversations in February 2021 and to date, have not come across anyone else who is doing similar. As such, preparation in advance of a first time experience is key to getting the most out of the experience. I have discovered that there is no better way to prepare than to talk with someone who has already experienced a session. To that end, I reached out to the wonderful people you see below who are happy to take your calls:

From early 2022, my team introduced image downloads to the live conversations resulting in images and moving images being downloaded during the majority of the  live sessions. Our loved ones in spirit are having a wonderful time sending images of themselves and others. In the moments before a download occurs, those in spirit always let us know that it’s imminent and will usually inform me as to where the images are being placed.  Here are a few examples of images that have been downloaded during a live session, more can be seen  within the gallery webpage. The first one relates to a little girl called Mya, it is the first talking, moving image that I became aware of, occurring back in February, 2022.

The Procedure Prior to a
Live Conversation Experience

When booking the session, my client will have provided me with a photo of whom they wish to have a conversation with, the person in spirit’s  first name and the type of relationship that exists/existed between them eg. spouse, sibling, parent, partner, child etc. In the days preceding the session due date, I then reach out to the person in spirit from my garden or elsewhere and talk with them a little. Invariably, I will ask them if they know why I’m reaching out to them and they always know…usually expressing their delight about the prospect of having the opportunity to talk directly to their loved one(s) here. During these garden conversations, I hear the words of the person in spirit both in my mind and occasionally, in the air around me.  To maximise my ability to hear them, I only have these conversations in the quietest part of the day..when there’s no breeze or bird chatter, often just before daybreak. Below are a couple of examples of my hearing children in spirit speak to me in the air. The first one still catches me by surprise when I  listen to it, the clarity with which Charlie spoke was incredible. The second example represents what I most commonly hear, usually a word or two or a partial sentence.

Hearing my client’s loved one speak in the air during the preparation:-

Such is the frequency with which I now hear the loved ones of others speak in the air, I have now created a special dates registry. If you are a member of one of the Heart Smiles facebook circles or have experienced a live conversation, I can add your name to the registry on a special date such as your or your loved one’s birthday. If you would like to be added and are eligible, please send me an email with the details.

Back to the live conversations. I record the audio of the conversations and use the recordings to make sound waves for use during the live sessions. My team once called these sound waves, “soul waves” which makes me smile. The sound waves I create are all unique, last around 15 seconds in length and contain a myriad of sounds.  I may play the same sound wave for up to two hours during a session, it never changes.  The spirit world is changing  the *output* from the sound wave and not the sound wave itself using my energy, moulding their words and comments from the myriad of sounds available to them.

What Happens During a
Live Conversation Session?

All sessions are held via zoom wherever possible. If that proves difficult, another form of visual communication is used. A portal between the spirit realm and the earth plane is opened at the beginning of a live session and remains open throughout the session, without the portal the live session would not happen. As the session commences, my team will confirm to me that the loved one in spirit with whom the session has been arranged with is present and the conversation begins.

During the conversation, loved ones here talk directly to their loved ones in spirit who in turn, listen and instantly respond directly and vice versa. It is a conversation. The spirit world create their words by utilising my energy to change the output from a non-changing sound wave that I repeatedly play throughout the session. I hear most of what is being said because the words are being spoken on a frequency that I can hear. I should add here that my clairaudient ability is unavailable to the loved ones in spirit during the live conversation, I only hear what is being said through listening to the words that are being externally produced via the sound wave. It assures the independent, direct voice aspect of the conversation. As to whether my client will hear the words, that will depend on whether a frequency alignment has occurred.  

In all instances, I listen to a small portion of what is being said and then convey the words that I hear to my client. Some people will hear what is being said without my  repeating the words but the majority of people don’t at present. My repeating the words grounds them, when I speak the words and play them, the information is getting a grounding chord and then others can hear.  Still, the grounding alone will not enable someone to hear the words, a frequency alignment has to have taken place as well. The two videos below beautifully illustrate this point. In both of these sessions, during the early part of the live conversation, my client’s couldn’t  hear what was being said  by their child despite my repeating what I was hearing to ground the words. This was because  there hadn’t been a frequency match at this point. And then it happened, the frequency was realigned. Physically, I could feel it when it  happened which was interesting by itself. However, it is the look on my client’s faces when they can suddenly hear their child’s words, that will remain with me forever.  The videos play without audio as the words are spoken on a specific frequency and may well not be heard by others.

For those that find they don’t hear much or simply tire of the focused listening…I always convey what is being said, word for word wherever possible. It is still a fully interactive, real time, two-way conversation..you can picture me as a translator in that scenario. Conversely, there are times when my clients will hear the words of their loved one in spirit at the same time I hear them, or even before I hear them which is always a delight for me. Occasionally, a client has been stunned during a session by the fact that, not only can they hear the words for themselves, but the words also have the vocal tone similar to that of their loved one when physically alive, creating breathtaking moments. Certainly, it is quite common for my clients to hear a change in vocal tone when more than one loved one in spirit comes through and talks during a live session.

Images and mini movies have already been mentioned, they are being downloaded on a regular basis during the live sessions, though they are not guaranteed to happen. They can be of photographic quality in nature and are downloaded within the environment of my clients room. Many contain movement and the spirit world are referring to these as mini movies. Walls, cabinets doors, actual doors, lampshades, mirrors, the lenses of a pair of glasses, vapour, cushions on a sofa, a stream of sunlight..the spirit world choose their spot for the downloads to occur and let us know, in real time, what they are doing and where. Below are two examples:-

Each session is beautifully unique with those on the earth plane and those in spirit orchestrating how the conversation will flow and what the content will be. Hard though it is to conceive, these interactive and evidential conversations are really happening. I have been facilitating them now almost daily since February, 2021. Full credit is to be given to my team in spirit and my son, for it is they who have made these live conversations a reality. And they continue to work with me on a daily basis…improving, refining and expanding the current process. I’m excited to see where it will go from here.

The Content of
A Live Conversation

The live conversation experiences tend to last anywhere from between 60 to 90 minutes and are often likened to a phone call. As such, the content is created by those participating in the conversation.This is a fully interactive experience and the most is gained from them when my clients fully engage in the conversation. Here is a wonderful example. Had Gordeen not mentioned the soup, the delightful evidential retort of Charlene’s would not have occurred:-
All in all, the conversations are full of love and can contain profound moments, humour, the sharing of memories and current happenings, discussion about ongoing communication and signs and so many other things. Evidentiary content comes through in so many ways…it slips into the conversation beautifully in some shape or form or via a question being answered. The personalities of our loved ones in spirit can shine. Familiar phrases are often used, jokes are rehashed and fun teasing can take place. The happiness felt by our loved ones in spirit at having an opportunity to talk directly with their loved ones here is almost tangible. And other loved ones in spirit may join the conversation with permission..leading to a wonderful family reunion. At this point, I have to share a wonderful, very human happening that took place during a live conversation between Nell Rose Foreman and her mother:-

One thing to mention at this point is the seeking of advice from a loved one in spirit. Yes, they will give advice sometimes..but not always. They will not rob their loved ones here on the earth plane of experiences that provide growth opportunities. Likewise, they will often not engage in topics that they deem to be counterproductive to the positive nature of the conversation.

Teaching moments can arise during these conversations. From talk of reincarnation to soul plans and everything in between. The independent nature of these conversations can lead to some enlightening commentary. I’ll give an example. One thing that I commonly hear mentioned is that our loved ones in spirit cannot possibly miss their physical lives here, that it is impossible to do so. That is simply not true. There have been plenty of occasions in a live conversation where mention has been made, by a loved one in spirit, of missing someone or something here on the physical plane. It does not mean that our loved ones in spirit are unhappy or wish to be back here, it simply means that they are having a moment of missing an aspect of their physical life. Here is a snippet from a conversation whereby the topic of being missed was raised:-

And finally, a word about the potential for me to mishear something. Prior to the start of the live conversation, before I bring my client into the zoom room, I speak with my team and the loved one in spirit with whom the conversation has been arranged. I ask my team to help me hear where they can and then ask the loved one in spirit to let me know if I am mishearing something. This they do. The loved one in spirit will let me know, via their independent voice for us all to hear, if I am mishearing something. They will either repeat their comment for me to listen to again or will phrase what they’re saying a different way.  Below are two examples:-

The Evidentiary Detail

Our loved ones in spirit appear to understand the importance of providing evidentiary detail during a live session and they slip it into the conversations in so many ways. There have been times when the evidence has been brought through early on in the conversation just to “get it out the way” in the words of one loved one in spirit. I remember a particular occasion where a child sang a few lines of a song early in the conversation that the mother recognized as being a song that she had sung to the child when little. On her confirming this, the child let the mother know that he was giving the evidence she needed and was now looking forward to chatting with her. And boy, do they love to chat! A loved one on the earth plane may be rendered speechless when the reality sinks in that they truly are talking to their loved one in spirit..but the same cannot be said for our loved ones across the veil. They never seem to run out of things to say.

Evidence can come through in limitless ways, in all the ways you’d expect in a mental mediumship reading and some. As the content of the conversation is determined by both the loved ones here and in spirit, the evidence may well come through in relation to where the conversation has been taken by my clients. Furthermore, the loved ones here will often hear the evidence spoken or sung for themselves. And of course there are the images and mini movies that are being downloaded during many of the sessions.

A couple of things should be noted at this point. The loved ones in spirit will bring the evidence through in their own way..it may well correspond to a question that’s been asked of them but not always. And making the conversation into something akin to a Spanish Inquisition…endlessly searching for evidentiary content and little else, appears to stunt the flow of the conversation somewhat and who knows how much is missed as a result. When the conversation is allowed to flow, it can unfold in the most beautiful of ways.

I have created snippets of evidential content from some of the live conversation experiences. They represent a small element of the evidence that comes through in a session and are beautifully illustrated with photos provided by my clients. They are little bursts of sunshine, designed to bring a smile to the hearts of all those that read them. You can see a few here and if you click on the button, you can enjoy many more.

Within the testimonials page, you can access fuller accounts of the live conversation experience. Here, focus is put on snippets of evidence. The evidence is then beautifully illustrated by way of pictures given to me by my clients. I like to think of each one as a little burst of sunshine that brings a smile to anyone’s heart who reads them. My grateful thanks go to all my clients who provided me with content. This page will be  updated with new snippets on an ongoing basis. Enjoy!

Live Conversations and
The Unborn and Very Young

Communication with the spirit of an unborn baby or very young is not just a possibility, it’s a reality. No matter the cause of passing, the spirits of unborn babies can and do come through during a live session. Or they don’t come through but are mentioned by another loved one in spirit. Likewise, very young babies will come through. Please click on the link to read of the experiences of these wonderful parents:-

Live Conversations and
The Living

I was aware that telepathic communication was possible with the non-verbal physically living,  it has been documented and talked about many times. My own experiences have been interesting in this regard. Below is a validation that came through during a live conversation in relation to a living sibling joining his sibling in spirit after being given a general anesthetic to render him unconscious.

The above validation made perfect sense to me. We are not our physical bodies, we are spiritual beings…an extension of source, simply housed in a physical body for a period of time. We can also leave our bodies when sleeping. We can leave and connect with our loved ones and our helpers on the other side. So I knew of the possibilities and patiently hoped to see if an opportunity would present itself for me to hold a live conversation with a living person in some shape or form. What came to be on 3rd March, 2023, though simply took my breath away.

Live Conversations with Loved Ones
who have Passed by Suicide

Aside from there being no devil or hell in the biblical sense, I hold my beliefs, understandings and knowings in relation to life beyond the physical, fluid. I am continually led back to things that I understood to a certain level and am given more insight and a deeper understanding. Presently, it is my understanding that suicides, just like murder, are not events that are definitively written into pre-birth soul plans. There will be an “exit point” for that time period and there may be an increased possibility of one of these events happening as a result of other things that may be planned..but other outcomes are also possible. 

I have not experienced the passing of a loved one by suicide so I decided to hand over the writing of this section to two mothers who have experienced the passing of a son and daughter by suicide. Both have experienced wonderful live conversations with their respective children since their passing

I have taken the most commonly asked questions that I receive in relation to the live conversations and have created a Q & A document. If you find that you have a question that isn’t addressed here, please feel free to reach out to the call volunteers in the first instance. They in turn will reach out to me if need be.

Frequently Asked Questions

To date, I haven’t had a single instance where the loved one in spirit hasn’t joined the scheduled conversation. So far, all have been thrilled at the prospect of having the opportunity to have an interactive talk with their loved ones here on the earth plane. However, just as with pure mental mediumship readings, it could happen. For whatever reason, it may not be the right time for the loved one in spirit to have a conversation. My team tells me that I must emphasize here that such a happening does not mean that a loved one here is disconnected from their loved one in spirit. If such a thing were to happen, I am told that I will know in the preceding days prior to the session date..when I reach out to connect with the loved one in spirit. They will either not join me in that conversation or join me and let me know it isn’t going to happen at that time. Should that ever occur, I will notify my client and reimburse the payment for the session in full.
You can ask for two related loved ones in spirit to be present. For example, two children or siblings, a spouse and a child, a parent and a child. I will need photos of both, together with their first name and relationship to you. I cannot guarantee that both will be present, as per my answer to the question about showing up. There would be a full refund given in the unlikely event that neither joined the conversation but no refund if only one of the loved ones was present.
First time sessions do not have a fixed time constraint and usually last between 60 – 90 minutes. Subsequent sessions have a maximum time of 60 minutes attributed to them..they may last a little longer or a little less, but the guideline for those in spirit is 60 minutes.
Yes, additional people in spirit can join the conversation but only with the permission of my client. Either my team or the loved one in spirit who the conversation was arranged with, will let us know that someone wishes to join the conversation. The person’s identity is given and the decision as to whether they can join the conversation is made by my client. They usually pop in just for a brief visit, being very aware that the session was arranged with someone else. Such happenings can lead to a beautiful family reunion of sorts.
When an additional loved one makes it known via my team that they want to join the conversation and you would prefer it not to happen, you can simply decline the request. All is well, your decision is respected and understood.
Tears are a common occurrence during a live session…as is laughter and astonishment when it sinks in that you are actually having a conversation with your loved one. Tears are understood and are met with love. I recommend that you have a box of tissues handy just in case.
Not at all, those in spirit seem to understand the importance of bringing evidence through. They may or may not answer your question however but they will provide you with evidence in some shape or form from my experience so far. The conversations are about so much more than providing evidence though…there have even been occasions where a loved one in spirit has provided evidence early in the conversation just to “get it out of the way” so the remainder of the conversation can be enjoyed. Bring your questions without expectations and see what unfolds.
Yes, but not always in my experience. They will often shy away from giving advice if it will rob you of potential growth opportunities…good to bear this in mind.
Certainly if our loved ones in spirit consider a topic to be detrimental for whatever reason, they will not engage in it from my experience.

Suggested Preparation for a Live Session..
If possible, carve out a little time to prepare yourself and your environment before the session is due to start. Here are a few suggestions:-
Meditate in whatever way works best for you. Sit quietly and focus on your breath, or perhaps do a guided meditation or a walking meditation.
Touch base with your loved one, they will hear you. Talk with them about the session that is due to take place.
Make a note of some of the things you’d like to talk about and have it to hand during the session.
Make your environment prior to the session one that generates peace and calm within you. Perhaps sit outdoors, listening to the sounds of nature. Or play music that lifts your spirit in some way. Whatever works for you.
Clear your mind of any worries or concerns you may have surrounding your day to day living. Be present and ready for your session.
Make sure you’re in a quiet, comfortable location free of distractions..the session may last up to 90 minutes.
Images and mini movies are being made during some of the live sessions by loved ones in spirit. To assist them in their creative endeavors, please try and provide a setting where there is both light and shade in your surroundings. For example, daylight entering the room via a window, a lamp providing a glow of light on a wall, a ceiling light creating reflections of light on walls and doors..a light source that provides a reflection on the lens of your glasses and so on. You can see some of the images that have been created during a live conversation in the gallery webpage (gallery webpage button link)
And finally, resist building up any preconceived ideas of how you think the session may go, come with an open heart and mind and see what unfolds.

It’s not guaranteed that you will hear the words for yourself though most do hear some, especially since frequency realignments came into play in February 2022. Since then, at the beginning of a session, or part way through, the frequency that the conversation is happening on maybe adjusted so that my client can hear what is being said. Even with a frequency adjustment, my listening to what is being said and then repeating it, grounds the words..grounds the vibration so others can hear. I therefore listen to what is being said by a loved one in spirit and then repeat it word for word before playing the same section of audio again so that my clients can hear. Other factors may influence how well I or my client can hear, such as the quality of the sound wave or how well the loved one is able to utilize my energy to create words from the available sounds. Irrespective of how much is personally heard, the conversation is still evidential, still interactive and still has the feel of a phone call from the feedback I have been given.
There have been times when the vocal tone has sounded very similar, you will find that shared in some of the testimonials. It is breathtaking when it happens. Even when the words that are spoken cannot be heard, the vocal tone can sometimes be recognized…or differentiated, especially when there are both male and female members of the spirit world talking. There are many times though where the voice simply sounds like the sound wave tone as it plays and words are formed. In this scenario, it is what is said rather than the tone that will be telling. I cannot predict how a person in spirit will sound when making their words..we will find that out together when the session begins. Each conversation is beautifully unique.
Yes, the session is recorded if held via zoom. I also film parts of the zoom session with my phone if images are being downloaded. As to whether you will still hear your loved one’s words that you heard during the session..that seems to be the case from the feedback I get. In fact, some people hear more so I’m told. The magic though happens in the moment, when the live session is occurring..and a real time conversation is taking place.
I have spoken to personal family members within 24 hours of their passing using a sound wave so there doesn’t appear to be a time constraint across the veil. However, too early in your grieving process here may make it difficult from a hearing perspective. And the heaviness of the early days of grief may lessen the enjoyment of talking to your loved one or distract from having a meaningful conversation. The decision as to when is the right time to experience a live conversation is yours to make.
I recommend that someone first experience a live session by themselves, without another present. This I do for several reasons. Firstly, the live sessions are highly interactive and conversations can take on a deeply personal note. Furthermore, having another present can be a little distracting and complete focus is often necessary for getting into the groove of hearing what is being said. Add to that, the fact that one person may very well hear more than the other, which in itself can potentially be disheartening and distracting..it is easy to understand why I make such a recommendation. I make this recommendation only in relation to first time sessions, not in relation to second and subsequent sessions. I have, however, now facilitated a fair few first time sessions where two people have been present and the session has been a wonderful experience for both. The bottomline here is that the decision is yours to make.
In relation to the preparatory work I do, the procedure is the same. I will reach out and connect with the loved one in spirit and prepare sound waves in advance of the session due date. First time sessions have an unlimited time frame in acknowledgement of the learning curve that invariable takes place in relation to listening. Subsequent sessions have a one hour time frame, plenty of time for a wonderful conversation to take place. New evidence comes through in the subsequent sessions, those in spirit appear to understand the necessity of it. You can read about the experiences of several people who have had multiple sessions within the testimonial webpage.

The Healing Nature
of the Live Conversations

As a mother with a child in spirit, one of the most important things I needed to know was if my child was ok and happy. That can be discovered in a live conversation and so much more. All those things you never had a chance to say when they were physically alive can be said. Happenings can be discussed. Confusions cleared up. Explanations given. Discussion leading to a mutual understanding can take place. Many people have questions that haunt them in relation to the actual passing of their loved one, these interactive conversations provide an opportunity for peace and reassurance to be found. What is it like where they are now, what are they doing..these details can provide so much comfort. Additionally, their personalities can shine through their words and a broken heart can mend a little. Laughter is often present during a conversation as can be tears. And a little joy can replace some of the sadness. When you know that your loved one happily lives on and remains with you..it becomes so much easier to live your best life here. In whatever way you like to view your healing, talking directly with your loved one can help you in the most wonderful and profound ways.

Not only can the conversations help with healing, they can also help with connection and ongoing communication as is reflected in the words of this parent with a child in spirit:-

And finally, reference is made to the live conversations within this summary of my interactions with Susanne wilson, hence my inclusion of it here. There are some interesting observations made in relation to the live conversions. I’m looking forward to seeing how things continue to unfold and expand..

Susanne Wilson

Susanne Wilson picture for website

Have a read of what my team had to say via Susanne Wilson, a world renowned medium and spiritual teacher. As my mediumship expanded and evolved in an unusual direction, I found these interactions between myself, Susanne and our respective teams on the other side to be wonderful and fascinating.

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